and i think bush, i mean obama, like bush, is making the mistake of going with the route of bigger and more federal intervention and i think we should be more like hong kong. >> the biggest government intervention that's coming is obamacare. listen to what the president had to say about that. >> the law is working in major way that benefits millions of americans right now, even as we have begun to slow the rides of healthcare costs, which is good for family budget did and good for federal and state budgets, and good for the budgets of businesses, small and large. so this law is going to work. and for the sake of our economic security, it needs to work. >> is he right, david? >> well, we need to have it work. america is spending for every dollar per person, on an equivalency basis, the other 33 modern countries in the world spend and they all have universal healthcare, many of them with no out-of-pocket charges, for every dollar they spend, we are spending $2 and 4 killing us, that's nonsense. i don't know how the doctors, an airline pilot. nobody shops for airline pilots. we expect the